Information Age with Larry Flynt
The topic was along the lines of the social value of pornography, another unlikely combination.
Questions about (and to) porn stars and their problems with STDs featured along with Larry, a critical mistake by the man from the Beeb. When did porn promoters like Mr Flynt concern themselves porn feedstock's medical issues? Frankly, the Limey's line made him sound like an effete wanker, and Larry effortlessly took him apart at each turn.
Oh, that's right. I have a point. When Mr Elite Reporter asked Mr Flynt about the redemptive value of porn, he replied in the following way: (I'm paraphrasing.)
Sex is the most primal and most direct way by which we communicate with each other. It also happens to be the means of communication we least understand and talk about the least.
Bottoms Up, Communicators.
9 comments:
WOW! I never woulda guessed Mr. Flynt was so cerebral!
I believe that the years are affecting his intelligence and criteria. He needs to choose his words carefully.
It struck me the same way, NiteByrd. Obviously he's thought a lot about sex over the years, and clearly not always with an eye to selling it.
True, Alfredo. Listening to the interview, despite his physical impediments, I'd say he chooses every word carefully. There's one sharp mind still behind the crumbling facade.
Remember I'm paraphrasing Mr F, and so am not really doing him justice.
Hmm, I think we talk about sex kind of a lot!
Single, that is definitely true.
What we don't necessarily do is talk about the true communication that is happening. Wombat (in his own way) has keenly been attempting to do just that in creating kissnblog. That's most likely why the quote by Mr Flynt struck him so directly.
The quote is accurate. Here is an example to support it: Woman state that men think with their penis and not their head. If you believe that to be true, then you may not be interested in the true communication the man is expressing. Most likely because you many not want to hear what is being said. Likewise for the men: I say women are gold-diggers. While that may be a truism, it also minimizes the sexual communication.
I do believe most people don't even want to hear the messages, they just want to shag.
As for Mr Flynt's quote. I don't think he thought this one up on his own. It was more likely in a report from a consultant (marketing psychologist) that pointed out how the magazine content could be modified to appeal to a broader readership if this subtext communication were to be tapped into.
Surprising insight from Flynt. But spot-on, I think. It gets at the fascinating irony of sex: that that which is so basic and universal, is yet rife with confusion, difficulty, and (at worst)even suffering. But I wonder if it's always been this way, or if it's this way everywhere? Are there societies where sexuality doesn't carry so much cultural baggage?
I'd agree that so much of what we say about sex is empty chatter - doesn't bring us any closer to the reality of the act. But maybe that's why it's so fun to talk about - it's real philosophy, a kind of neverending series of questions and struggles.
So that's why I'm so happy to have just come across your blog, Wombat. A very welcome outlet for this North American trapped in a particularly repressed part of Europe!
And when you say "we", Licious Lady, are you talking about we folks here, or in general? I can tell you fer sher that guys def do not talk realistically or deeply about sex...although Mr Nights is an exception :-)
...and Mr Nights, you've once again clarified and amplified me (and Larry) well. Yes, there are depths of thinking and exploration about sex that we rarely think about, let alone explore.
And, yes, K&B is ALL about that, however haphazard...
Well, Almondine, I'm glad you found us here. Join us in our valiant pursuit of unexplored corners of the relationship world?
Completely agree with you about the "...empty chatter." That's fun sometimes, but there's so much more.
Welcome!
Mr. N, I'm not sure I understand everything you said here.... I do agree, though, that sex is a form of communication, or at least that it can be and often feels like it is. Hollywood sure seems to depict it that way, too, with song lyrics expressing what the characters supposedly feel. And personally, I don't think men think with their penises most of the time; I think society's cliche in that regard is a gross exaggeration and oversimplification, though I think anyone can sometimes let sexual urges trump rational thinking (I've been guilty of that on more than one occasion). And I may never get the "golddigger" thing. Not that I think that species doesn't exist (I think I was married to one) but I struggle to imagine that it's any more common than, say, women who are into BDSM. Of course, any one person can date a lot of people of the same type, whether it's controlling jerks or people with a fear of intimacy or golddiggers; then it's a question of identifying the pattern and trying to figure out what's necessary to change it....
Wombat, I meant "we women." Certainly we talk about relationships a lot ("Should he have called me by now?" "Should I call him?" types of questions), but a number of my friends and I are quite open about what we're doing in bed, in a context where it's relevant. For example, one friend was dating a guy who she would give head to but he would never reciprocate, although she asked him to, which made her wonder why and what it meant in the context of their relationship. And I was pretty direct with her and another friend recently about that "first" I had with Farmer (which is pretty revealing about me), because it's relevant to my internal struggle about whether to keep seeing him. I guess think of the TV show "Sex and the City," though I think that was both a caricature done for dramatic effect and a catalyst for women in the sense that it gave permission to talk more openly with each other about sex.
Internal struggle, sure. They're the worst.
I stand by my accusation that blokes are loathe to find sex bedrock and then express it. We communicate, obliquely, and that's the best of it.
Until he's ready. Of course.
:-)
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